CHESTER HAS MOVED!: 3pm Update . . .

Tuesday, November 09, 2004

3pm Update . . .

Today's USA Today has a graphic of the battle on page 8A. Three interesting bits: 1. Caption notes that Marines in the north are sealing off tunnels. This is very good news. Whether we have stumbled upon tunnels or had prior intelligence about them, denying their use to the insurgents, and forcing them to fight above-ground is a positive for us. 2. Another caption notes that the soccer field in the NE part of town is where insurgents are burying their dead -- doesn't say how long they have been doing this. Interesting . . . 3. Finally, another caption states, "Soldiers from Britain's Black Watch battalion were not part of the major assault but patrolled the west bank of the Euphrates River to disrupt any insurgent movement in and out of Fallujah." Wow! So the Black Watch is that far north! All previous stories we've covered here have indicated that the Black Watch was further to the east and to the south . . . and on the eastern side of the Euphrates, not the west . . . more to come on this tonight as I take another close look at the imagery and maps in my commander center. Also: An Alert Reader notes that we will get little detail in the press about successful techniques the US forces are using because they will want to use thm again in Ramadi. Excellent point. Sometimes though, bits and pieces can be gleaned from news reports, and we'll keep doing just that.

89 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Rebels take up positions in the heart of nearby Ramadi, after US troops withdraw from the city, a former insurgent stronghold" -BBC

Any idea why U.S. would allow this to happen??? I understand redeploying a portion of your troops from quite areas (Shiite south), but why would we allow these guys to set up shop somewhere else and fight another day? Seems counterproductive to be chasing them from Ramadi to Falluja and back again.

November 9, 2004 at 1:39 PM  
Blogger Final Historian said...

We are allowing them to concentrate so that they will all head to Ramadi as "the next Fallujah." That way, when we do assault Ramadi in a week or two, as many of them as possible are inside the city. Concentrating their forces helps us, and hurts them.

November 9, 2004 at 1:46 PM  
Blogger KeithJamesMc said...

Low Tech solutions:

AP reporting...

A psychological operations unit broadcast announcements in Arabic meant to draw out gunmen. An Iraqi translator from the group said through a loudspeaker: "Brave terrorists, I am waiting here for the brave terrorists. Come and kill us. Plant small bombs on roadsides. Attention, attention, terrorists of Fallujah."

BBC Reporting...

As loudspeakers in mosques called on fighters to defend Falluja, the US replied with heavy metal music and sirens played over a deafening megaphone.

November 9, 2004 at 1:59 PM  
Blogger KeithJamesMc said...

AP reporting tactics on air support

Up to eight attack aircraft - including jets and helicopter gunships - blasted guerrilla strongholds and raked the streets with rocket, cannon and machine-gun fire ahead of U.S. and Iraqi infantry who were advancing only one or two blocks behind the curtain of fire.

November 9, 2004 at 2:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can I ask a question? We know that certain facial expressions give away knowledge and our deception. Given that it's hard for the US to tell the difference between insurgents posing as citizens and genuine non-fighters, why can't they come up with a technology where one has the suspect stare into a screen followed by being asked the question "Are you fighting for the insurgents?" or whatever, ignore perhaps the phrasing of the question. But you get the idea. Two seconds later, computer says if he's lying or not. Anyone who doesn't think this stuff could happen, just do a google on facial expressions. Maybe the wrong forum for this, if so, someone suggest a better one?

November 9, 2004 at 2:10 PM  
Blogger Final Historian said...

That technology is fairly expensive and difficult to work with, and I doubt we could field it easily. However, it is certainly something to work on for the future, and might be useful for places like Guantanamo.

November 9, 2004 at 5:02 PM  
Blogger remoteman said...

Chester, I would be a bit suspect of the USA Today report on the location of the Blackwatch. One never knows if they are reporting from the hotel bar in Bagdhad or not.

November 9, 2004 at 5:03 PM  
Blogger SESchutz said...

Just found this blog while searching for info on Fallujah. My son is a lance corporal in the Marines in the fight there and getting fresh info in hard. Glad I found this site and glad you have time to glean the news and keep us posted.

November 9, 2004 at 6:49 PM  
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FH,
I understand that, but why leave Ramadi in the first place?

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